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It was a round sphere.

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The exterior of it was gashes.

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Are we being visited?

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The Amastriner truck got really, really thick,

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The following morning I found blood on my pillow.

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We were both startled awake by a bright light,

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and I could hear what sounded like someone moving around upstairs.

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US military veterans report terrifying close encounters.

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I was spurned on my face and on my hand.

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Even injuries.

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We ought to be able to follow the data wherever it goes.

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Does the evidence hold up?

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Sounds exactly like a textbook case of sleep paralysis.

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Is it proof we're not alone?

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If it turns out that you have something that is coming down

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and taking people against their own free will,

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that's potentially an act of war.

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Every day, every night,

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everything we know about UFOs is changing.

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Thanks to a team led by former Pentagon UFO investigator Llew Elizondo.

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That is real, whatever that is.

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This is a current continuing phenomenon.

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It's happening. It continues to happen.

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They discovered five unique characteristics

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that UFOs have in common, called the five observables.

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that forced the Navy to admit its pilots were coming face to face

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with unidentified objects.

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Strange flying objects caught on tape by their own fighter pilots are in fact UFOs.

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I've never seen anything move like that.

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Shape, size, speed, it's clearly unidentified.

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Connect the dots to reveal the truth about UFOs.

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This thing had no capability, like anything on Earth.

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And warn the world about the dangers they might represent.

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Carl Sagan once famously said,

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extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

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The UFOs are the most dangerous and most dangerous objects.

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The UFOs are the most dangerous objects.

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One of the most disturbing things Llew Elizondo studied at the Pentagon

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were reports of close encounters with UFOs.

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The cases are controversial.

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But armed forces personnel swear they not only happened,

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but caused lasting physical and psychological effects.

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This first account happened over 40 years ago.

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My name is Mario Woods.

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I served in the Air Force from 1975 to 1983.

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In 1977, I was a team member on a security response team

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at Ellsworth Air Force Base out in Dakota.

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During the Cold War, Ellsworth Air Force Base

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formed a key part of the so-called Northern Tier Defense System,

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operating hundreds of nuclear-tipped,

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Minuteman intercontinental ballistic missiles.

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I guess it was about 10.30. Quarter to 11.

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that November 5 had alarmed and it was a SIT-4,

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which was a serious alarm.

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It means that exterior alarms penetrated.

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I told my team leader, Michael Johnson.

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Mario Woods and his team leader were ordered to investigate the disturbance

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at a missile silo, codenamed November 5.

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The atmosphere in the truck got really, really thick, like, couldn't breathe.

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The object hovering over the nuclear missile silo

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appeared to be exhibiting one of the five observables.

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Anti-gravity, the ability to fly without visible means of propulsion.

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that there was definitely nuclear connection.

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and our nuclear capabilities along the Northern Tier?

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My partner, Michael Johnson, he was just frozen to the wheel

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looking straight ahead out that windshield.

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I took my mag light and I pulled myself out on the windowsill of that truck.

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Then I remember just blacking out.

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And that's the last thing that I remember.

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Until that radio came back to life.

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And all I heard was a wing security control to November 1.

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That was us, our call sign.

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And I turned to Michael Johnson and I said, you're going to get that?

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And he was still just frozen in his position.

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And I couldn't figure it out because there was a wall right here.

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Wood says they had lost several hours.

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An unexplained gap in time where they had no memory of where they were.

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So when I got back on the radio, I told WSC that I'm spot a white wall.

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So they said, continue to talk.

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We're triangulating your location.

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And I said, I don't know where I am. I don't know where we are.

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And don't know how we got here.

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I said, what's happened?

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He goes, I can't talk to you about it. Stay right there.

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He wouldn't answer me in any way.

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He was just frozen in this position looking straight ahead.

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I had to have another guy help me slide him over to the passenger seat

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and seatbelted him in.

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Woods and his partner were relieved of their weapons

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and told to follow the backup alert team to the main base.

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I need to ask you what happened out there.

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I told him what had happened and he asked me to describe the size of it.

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He goes, do you have any idea how you got to where you were?

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I said, no, sir.

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He said, we're going to send you over to the base hospital.

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We have a doctor who wants to take a look at you

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and just make sure that you're all right.

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The doctor examined my eyes, my ears, nose, all that stuff.

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He says, I need to take a skin sample.

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And I said, why a skin sample?

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He says, because you have some burns on you.

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I think most everybody is aware of the five observables,

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but we looked at other things.

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And that six observable was biological effects.

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I was spurned on my face and on my hand.

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they went right into a vial about that big

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and they put a cork on top of them.

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And they put a cork on top of them.

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And then they were laying on a silver tray.

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He said, man, what did you see?

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What do you remember?

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I went through everything that I knew.

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And then he described the tunes that he was scared to death.

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We thought we'd talk about it further,

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but that was the last time I ever saw him.

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I've been trying to find him ever since.

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and other close encounters.

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There are key data points that we can measure

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to determine if there are indeed biological effects.

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It's no different than if I were to stand behind

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the jet engine of a 747 at takeoff,

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chances are I'm going to get burned.

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there are real physical effects that warrant some attention.

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were never shared with him.

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deepens the mystery of these close encounters.

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Llew Elizondo has just learned that staff sergeant Mario Woods

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claims he blacked out after encountering

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a giant luminous sphere at a nuclear missile base.

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It's a scary scene, man.

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All those years ago, you know, it's as if it's never left.

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I can smell the air, I can see the wall,

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I can feel the wind, I can feel the wind.

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I can feel the waves, I can feel the wind.

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I can smell the air, I can see the wall,

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I can see that object.

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You'll hear me talking to you, you'll be able to talk back to me.

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Woods decided to undergo hypnosis

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to see if he could recover any memories

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from the four hours he lost during the experience.

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I was first in something that I was either breathing

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or I was laying in that felt like a gel

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and it was cold.

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That was one of the worst feelings I think I've ever had in my life.

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I remember bright lights and then dim lights

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and then flickering lights.

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Just all seemed to be like a dream

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until the next thing I know I came to.

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And of course four hours had gone by.

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The incident has left Woods with mental scars

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that have yet to heal.

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It changed everything and it still does to this day.

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My children kind of look at me and, you know,

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okay dad, okay, that kind of thing.

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she doesn't really know what to make of it.

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One of the things that I think you're left with is anger.

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It's something that just has never gone away.

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I don't walk out of my house in the morning on a day shift

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without looking in the sky to see if I feel something.

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I love you.

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And I want you to be okay with it.

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You understand?

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I want you to have peace with it all

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because I don't think you do.

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of close and personal with UAPs,

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that is an experience that very few people on the planet have had.

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or the partner doesn't have that same experience,

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it can leave one feeling isolated and alone.

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to contact Elizondo and his team about a harrowing close encounter.

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Elizondo has sent a camera crew to record the testimony

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of a veteran in Montana who says his nightmare

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also started at a nuclear base.

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I have personal friends of mine

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that have some pretty amazing stories to tell.

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I believe that they believe what they're telling me.

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But you can be absolutely sure of something

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and still be absolutely wrong.

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Jeff Goodrich, I live in Great Falls, Montana,

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retired missile maintenance technician.

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I was transferred to Momstrom Air Force Base in Great Falls in 1994.

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of the Northern Tier missile defense system

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and has a long history of documented UFO sightings.

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Sergeant Jeff Goodrich was a team chief

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He was a member of the UAPS,

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and Goodrich was a team chief in the missile handling section.

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On the 2nd of February 1996,

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I had walked out of the missile roll transfer building.

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And I noticed a lieutenant just outside the door

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looking up into the sky.

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I asked him what he was looking at

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and he pointed out five very large white triangles.

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The objects were bright white.

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There were no other details, no wings, no tail,

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no visible means of propulsion.

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There was absolutely no sound whatsoever.

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They moved very slowly,

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and then they all proceeded at the same speed

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until they disappeared over the horizon.

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But Goodrich says this was just the first

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and less frightening of his encounters.

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The next one would change his life.

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The next one would change his life.

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Lou Elizondo's investigation into UFO close encounters

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has led the team to Sergeant Jeff Goodrich,

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who was at Momstrom Air Force Base in 1996.

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When he says he saw five strange triangular craft.

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The lieutenant was as mystified as I was,

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how he came to notice they were there.

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I don't know.

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But I don't know how he realized

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that the chance he just happened to look up

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in the right direction.

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The objects seen by Goodrich were never identified.

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But he believes they could have been a precursor

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to another encounter he had soon after

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that left physical effects.

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About two months after the sighting of the white triangles,

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a friend needed a place to stay for the night.

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We visited for a little bit.

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I think we both went to bed about 11 o'clock.

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He slept on the sofa downstairs,

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which is right outside my bedroom in the basement.

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And I don't recall what time it was,

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but we were both startled away by a bright light.

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It was extremely bright.

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It was just totally blinding.

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I could hear what sounded like

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someone moving around upstairs

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and then footsteps coming down the stairs.

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And at that point, I could make out the silhouettes

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of four or five small beans,

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backlit in a foggy light.

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And I raised up out of bed and I tried to say something,

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but I couldn't speak.

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You're totally helpless.

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Goodrich says he isn't sure what happened next,

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because he immediately passed out.

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In the morning, I felt like I hadn't slept at all,

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like I'd been up all night.

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And he got up shortly after I did

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and we had the same story to tell the foggy light

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and tried to say something to me

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and couldn't and immediately lost consciousness

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and couldn't remember anything else.

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Goodrich, his friend, and Mario Woods

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all claimed to have lost consciousness

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during their encounters.

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Could these blackouts be evidence of the sixth observable?

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If you have technology that has the ability

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to do certain things with space-time

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and maneuver the way it is,

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and if you get too close to that thing,

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could you be injured by that?

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Well, potentially yes, you can be.

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In any case, we said biological effects

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because we were able to see that there were certain,

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potentially physiological effects on biological systems

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if they got too close to these things.

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Goodrich's encounters have had long-lasting consequences.

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I do feel isolated at times

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because there are so few people

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that I can even discuss the subject with.

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I think most people that have had an experience like this,

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it changes your perspective

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and sort of becomes like a lifelong obsession

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to find answers to what's happened to you.

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But for Elizondo, the most important question

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is whether these effects can be scientifically verified.

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These individuals are absolute trained observers.

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I mean, you have two credible witnesses.

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Now, that's not saying it's real or it's not real.

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I am sure some of these people are very traumatized

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and they absolutely believe what they believe.

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But there's no empirical way I can prove or disprove it.

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So he is on his way to the remote home of a renowned UFO expert,

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a man with a reputation for rigorous data-oriented research.

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So here we are in the middle of nowhere, Colorado.

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Beautiful state. We're about 7,000 feet up in altitude.

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And we're going to a real remote location.

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He's a trained observer

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and he is probably the only person on this planet right now

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that has the amount of historical data

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as it relates to the phenomenon.

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I'm here because Robert Hastings said

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he wanted to have a conversation with me.

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It was urgent and this has to do

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with a little bit more of close and personal contact.

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Hello there, Robert.

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Greetings.

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This is one hell of a place you got here.

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Wow.

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So, Robert, thank you very much for having me here

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at your incredibly lovely house.

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I gotta admit, you really live off the grid, man.

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Robert Hastings has been studying the connection

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between what he believes may be beings from another world

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and U.S. nuclear facilities, going back decades.

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He's interviewed 167 veterans

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about their UFO experiences near nuclear bases.

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But recently, he's turned his attention

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to the physical and psychological effects

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caused by these close encounters.

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In the course of my many interviews with military veterans,

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from time to time, I would encounter an individual

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who seemed to be interested in telling me something

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but was hesitant to really openly address the subject.

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Hastings says of the scores of veterans he spoke to.

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A handful reported some kind of biological effect

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following their alleged incident.

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They described finding blood on their bedding or bedclothes.

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They also have described finding strange scars

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that cannot be accounted for

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that seem to appear immediately after these experiences.

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But Hastings hasn't just conducted research

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about the physical effects of UFO encounters.

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He claims to have experienced them himself.

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I wanted to come here and talk to you

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because you have spent your life and your career

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listening to other people tell their stories

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about their experiences.

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And all of a sudden, late last year, that changed.

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You began to tell your story.

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Would you mind sharing with me a little bit of that perspective?

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I was 38 years old.

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I had already been on the college lecture circuit for seven years

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talking about the U.S. government cover-up on UFOs.

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In 1988, Hastings is on a camping trip with friends

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in the mountains near Albuquerque, New Mexico.

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It was the first night of the trip.

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I awoke at 3 a.m. sharp because I checked my watch.

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And one of this woman's daughters awoke us all screaming

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at the top of her lungs,

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what are those lights? What are those lights?

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Legendary UFO researcher Robert Hastings

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is telling Lou Elizondo about a camping trip

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he took with friends in New Mexico.

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He was asleep in a tent

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when his friend's daughter started screaming

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about something in the sky.

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We kind of groggily got up.

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Some of us stumbled outside.

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I saw an object moving away in the sky with two strobe lights.

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The woman, my friend, was standing next to me.

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It was below the mountain range and gaining altitude.

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When it finally disappeared from you,

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it was above the silhouette of the mountain range.

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The next morning, the woman said something weird happened last night.

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My radio turned on all by itself.

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I assumed that I just kicked it in my sleep,

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and so I turned it off.

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The same thing happened again, apparently.

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It went turned on by itself, she said.

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It got louder and louder and louder.

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And by the time she got to it, it was at maximum volume.

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So we had that data point.

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The morning after he got home from the camping trip,

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Hastings noticed what he thinks may have been a biological effect from the encounter.

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The following morning, I found blood on my pillow.

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Okay, running nose, maybe you had a bloody nose at night, maybe a...

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It's conceivable, but there was no blood on my face.

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There was no blood anywhere else.

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So unusual, right.

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Somewhere around Thursday or Friday,

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my friend, the woman called me and said,

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the woman who is sleeping in her van

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had called her very upset,

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saying, I'm having a repetitive nightmare every night this week,

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and in the nightmare, Robert, you, my friend,

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and your eight-year-old daughter, are walking single file toward this landed object.

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The van starts filling with this bright white strobe light going on and off.

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I procrastinated for four years, but in 1992,

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I had a very skeptical, clinical psychologist.

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Regressed me, hypnotic regression.

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During the sixth hypnosis session,

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Hastings says he retrieved a frightening new memory from the night of the camping trip.

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I suddenly found myself walking into an incredibly bright room.

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The walls were curved into the ceiling. They were seamless.

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It scared me to death.

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I was just terrified by whatever this was,

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and I actually pulled myself out of the hypnosis session.

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If it turns out that you have something that is coming down

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and taking people against their own free will,

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that's potentially an act of war.

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It's hard to make that leap. That's why I'm here.

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I need to collect more information to make a determination.

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I absolutely believe you believe what you've experienced.

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I don't think there's any question about that.

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I guess my playing devil's advocate here, from a scientific perspective,

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is it possible that some false memory was introduced subconsciously

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and now all of a sudden that false memory becomes now interpreted as a real memory?

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If I had my choice being a solid nuts and bolts researcher on the subject

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who has credibility in the eyes of veterans and academia

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and many, many law enforcement people I've talked to,

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I certainly wouldn't introduce into my life the fact that I've had these experiences.

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I struggle with the whole phenomenon a bit.

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I'm a very data-oriented, empirical science guy.

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Yet I have to confess there are people that I know,

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credible people, military and government people who had these experiences.

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My stance on all of these issues is we should always keep an open mind

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and continue to just follow the data.

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I am absolutely convinced that Mr. Robert Hastings truly believes

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he experienced something extraordinary.

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He took a big risk to come out and have this conversation.

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Now, do I believe the event happened?

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Well, that's a different story.

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I think it's important that I ascertain some professional perspectives,

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especially in the world of human psychology.

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Elizondo wants to know if there's a way to scientifically evaluate stories like Hastings

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and the other eyewitnesses.

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So he sets up a video meeting with Dr. Susan Clancy,

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a psychologist who earned her PhD from Harvard in 2001.

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In 2005, she wrote the book, Abducted,

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How People Come to Believe They Were Kidnapped by Aliens.

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When I started this research, I thought, you know, oh my god,

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these people really could be psychotic.

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That ended very quickly.

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We would have them remember their experiences

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and then we would study how their bodies reacted physiologically

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and their bodies reacted the same way as post-traumatic stress victims

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react to getting shot at to personal trauma.

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So this is not making stuff up.

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This is a memory that is inside them that feels as real as any other memory.

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Lou Elizondo has examined three incidents where credible individuals say they saw and interacted with UFOs.

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But could there be another explanation for their disturbing memories?

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The information we receive from the three individuals, all of them are absolutely certain they've experienced what they've experienced.

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But there is a common thread with some of the individuals and they involve hypnosis.

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Can you explain to me in late terms what is it?

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What hypnosis is?

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It is simply blowing you into a very relaxed state.

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Okay? And you've got this therapist that you trust and he's saying things to you.

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Like, do you remember if there was a figure in the bedroom?

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Do you remember if you felt afraid or vulnerable?

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And when this stuff is happening and people are calm and suggestible,

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the answer tends to be yes.

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And you are now constructing a memory of something that didn't happen.

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Does that make sense?

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Yeah, it does. I think that's fascinating.

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So Doctor, there was an individual who explained the experience of being completely paralyzed while encountering this interesting experience.

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Is there a medical explanation or a psychological explanation that might help explain the phenomena of this?

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Yes. It sounds exactly like a textbook case of sleep paralysis.

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It's like an incongruity in our sleep cycles where we're awake for a second,

513
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but we're still experiencing the hallucination aspect of sleep.

514
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And when sleep paralysis happens, we can't move.

515
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During those experiences, people report terror and seeing frightening imagery and hearing frightening sounds.

516
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And then they're going out there and they're looking for an explanation that fits their pattern of symptoms.

517
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And a very available cultural script for sleep paralysis, psychological problems is alien abductions.

518
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You had movies, you had TV shows.

519
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If Doctor Clancy Stereo is correct, the eyewitnesses may have created false memories influenced by pop culture.

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Beginning in the 1950s, close encounters with alien visitors have become a familiar story in popular movies and television shows.

521
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And in 1987, the best-selling book Communion helped introduce the idea that everyday people were experiencing extraterrestrial contact.

522
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What for decades had been a very obscure and bizarre facet of the UFO phenomenon

523
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had by the mid-1990s become the subject of daytime television shows, documentaries.

524
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Researcher Mark Pilkington thinks a culturally available narrative explains why stories of close encounters are so consistent.

525
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It was quite hard to find anybody who had felt that they'd had anomalous UFO-related experiences,

526
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who wasn't aware of what happened during an alien abduction encounter.

527
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I think it's no surprise that we see a sudden surge of stories from witnesses of themselves being taken on board UFOs.

528
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But some experts took the growing number of abduction accounts seriously.

529
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A turning point came in 1994 when Dr. John Mack, a Harvard professor and founding chairman of the psychiatry department at Cambridge Hospital,

530
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published Abduction, Human Encounters with Aliens.

531
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The international best-seller helped legitimize these encounters.

532
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What does it mean if this and presumably many other potential life forms do exist in ways that gets through to our reality?

533
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What does this mean for our consciousness, our sense of ourselves?

534
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Mack's research caused an uproar.

535
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Harvard investigated his work and a committee faulted his use of hypnosis.

536
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But its final report reaffirmed Mack's academic freedom and he remained on the Harvard faculty of medicine.

537
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For him, there was a very spiritual component to this and I don't think he gave a crap when anybody else thought.

538
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In the end, that's what helped me understand a lot of what was going on, is that for most of these people, these experiences were terrible,

539
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but these people felt changed afterwards.

540
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They felt that there was a sense of purpose that was powerful enough for them to not want to have these memories go away.

541
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But all I could do in the end was say, based on the data, it is more likely that this is a false memory.

542
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Doctor, this has been an absolute honor and pleasure of mine. Thank you so very much.

543
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Thank you so much.

544
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It's tremendously courageous for people to come forward and share their experiences with me.

545
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I think that having an explanation of sleep paralysis, I think it's fair that it may explain some of the experiences,

546
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but I think it's unfair to put all of those experiences into the same bucket that they're all having sleep paralysis.

547
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I think that's too broad of a generalization.

548
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Maybe some of these people are having hypnagogic experiences, but there are some cases that are very, very difficult to explain,

549
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where in the aftermath there's measurable medical changes to individuals' anatomy.

550
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For Lou Elizondo and Chris Mellon, the physical effects caused by certain UFO encounters are beyond dispute.

551
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In 2019, Elizondo interviewed John Burroughs, a military policeman, and witnessed the famous Rendlesham Forest UFO event in 1980.

552
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Whatever it was came right over the top of us, but I got knocked to the ground.

553
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Burroughs says after his encounter, he began experiencing serious health problems and went to a hospital.

554
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When the doctor put the stethoscope on my chest, he looked at me strange.

555
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He says, what's the air force have to say about your heart murmur?

556
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And I'm like, I'm around my heart murmur. He goes, oh, yes, you do.

557
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Doctors had discovered life-threatening scarring on his heart.

558
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Burroughs was eventually able to get full Veterans Administration disability benefits for his injury, but only with the help of an aide to Senator John McCain.

559
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Getting information for John Burroughs was like pulling teeth.

560
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Was this a purposeful effort to squelch John's record from being made public?

561
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Oh, I would adamantly say yes, 100 percent it was deliberate.

562
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What do you think they're afraid of?

563
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The incident that took place, they literally had proof and evidence they didn't want the world to know.

564
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For Elizondo, the complete truth about the phenomenon won't be clear until the government finally reveals what it knows about close encounters and all unexplained UFO incidents.

565
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In the UFO community, it's called disclosure.

566
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I don't think disclosure is an event. I think it's a process.

567
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I think the one thing that I find almost universally applicable when regarding this phenomenon is that most individuals report to have some sort of profound change that they've experienced during and after an event.

568
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Elizondo has investigated the harrowing accounts of military service members who claim to have had close encounters with UFOs.

569
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While he's unsure what to make of their incredible stories, they are part of a growing movement.

570
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What inspired you to come here today and why now?

571
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For the past 70 years, the government was unwilling to treat this subject matter with anything except ridicule.

572
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The sighting was 20 years ago that we've never talked to anybody else about it.

573
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I think the biggest piece of this movement is Mr. Elizondo's willingness to step out of the darkness and the courage of his fellow team members has inspired me to come for it.

574
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These are individuals we trust with our lives. They should be able to report this information without fear of retribution or stigma.

575
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When you see something for yourself that does not obey physical norms, physical laws, it changes your perspective on reality.

576
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Whatever's behind that technology, if you're warping gravity, that is the capability that exceeds anything that is out there right now and that's both exciting and frightening.

577
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During this year's investigation, commercial airline pilots, NORAD and FAA personnel all risked their careers to come forward.

578
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If our brave men and women in uniform can report this information, so should our civilian pilots.

579
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It was very scary. When you have an object within 50 feet of an aircraft moving at 35,000 feet at 550 knots, that's not good.

580
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If one of these did hit one of our airplanes, it would most likely kill everybody on board.

581
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Once considered fringe, these accounts have earned the topic a new legitimacy and for Elizondo and Chris Mellon, a new urgency.

582
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It's more than a national defense issue, even though it certainly is that it's a scientific issue.

583
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It's an issue that offers us the opportunity potentially to find answers to questions that are of the deepest and most profound nature.

584
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You have to reject every preconceived notion that you're born with and you learn in school and you're taught in church and you're taught through universities and academic institutions.

585
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The team's work led to powerful members of Congress and even the president himself being briefed on ongoing military encounters with UFOs.

586
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I did have one very brief meeting on it, but people are saying they're seeing UFOs. Do I believe it? Not particularly.

587
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:30,000
And in June 2020, Senator Marco Rubio called for the formation of a new multi-agency task force to study the phenomenon.

588
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Senator Rubio said the UFO task force will release its findings to the public.

589
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Also in June 2020, astrophysicists revealed there may be as many as 6 billion Earth-like planets in our galaxy, many with the conditions to support life.

590
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For Elizondo and his team, it's further confirmation of what they've been hesitant to claim in the past, but now are emboldened to come out and say.

591
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The phenomenon is real. These are not U.S., Russian or Chinese vehicles. If there is another intelligence from another system that's vastly more advanced and sophisticated than we are and we were able to establish contact and communication,

592
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it would be the equivalent, possibly, of gaining hundreds of thousands or millions of years worth of knowledge in days, months or weeks.

593
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What does it mean for us if we are presented one day with the fact that there are others out there? Does it mean that we're not a special anymore?

594
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Or does it mean that we have brothers and sisters that now we should start a new journey with?

595
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I think there's magic in that. I think it's wondrous to think that in the greater cosmos, billions and billions of light-years with billions and trillions of stars and planets,

596
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that we're all part of this interesting cosmic neighborhood. Wouldn't it be amazing? Maybe we will be more human. Maybe we will learn to be more than human if we have a chance to learn from something else.

597
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And therefore, our definition of being a human being is expanded.

598
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